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Showing posts with label #EthnicStudiesNow. Show all posts
Showing posts with label #EthnicStudiesNow. Show all posts

Friday, October 18, 2024

Ninth-grade ethnic studies helped students for years, Stanford researchers find

Friends:

To know why Ethnic Studies works, read these articles that explain why. I'm so glad that Dr. Eliza Epstein shared it with me and others while reminding us of our own struggle in Texas to advance Ethnic Studies citing, "'Never Without a Fight': How Texas Has Stood Up for Ethnic Studies, by Maribel Falcón.

Dr. Epstein also shares this in-depth, authoritative piece published by the National Education Association authored by leading scholar Dr. Christine Sleeter titled, What the Research Says About Ethnic Studies that is also great for the college classroom, together with works cited herein.


Why does it work? The short answer to this question is that all of these pieces collectively speak to the importance of a curriculum that not only fosters positive pro-social and communitarian values but as importantly, speaks to the situated experiences of the children and youth in the classroom.

The jury is in. Ethnic Studies changes lives and promotes college-going. The reason we have to struggle for it is therefore less about evidence than it is about politics. This is the story for quality, well-funded, and staffed Bilingual Education, too. Yet both offer such potential and richness to culture and society.

I remain encouraged by the ongoing activism around it.

This morning I read a Bible verse that says, "God blesses those who hunger and thirst for justice, for they will be satisfied." (Matthew 5:6)

Regardless of religion, faith, or creed, this is who we are in the Ethnic Studies struggle. We hunger and thirst for justice. We advocate for our children, youth, and communities. We care deeply about the future. This shouldn't even be a struggle to begin with. 

It's a lifelong quest that will most certainly continue until we are satisfied. In some sense, for those of us knee-deep into the movement, it already is. We love the work we do in our communities like we do at Academia Cuauhtli, our Saturday school in Austin, Texas, to offer a nurturing, culturally resonant pedagogy and vision for the future. At this school, we combine Ethnic Studies, Bilingual Education, and Indigenous pedagogy into a beautiful curriculum for elementary school youth that motivates and inspires. There needs to be more Academia Cuauhtlis in the world.

I've always said that someday, Ethnic Studies will just be called a "good education." Thanks, Dr. Epstein. I always appreciate a fresh reminder of why we do what we do.

-Angela Valenzuela


Ninth-grade ethnic studies helped students for years, Stanford researchers findStanford ReportSeptember 6, 2021

A new study shows that students assigned to an ethnic studies course had longer-term improvements in attendance and graduation rates.


A ninth-grade ethnic studies class has a remarkably prolonged and strong positive impact on students, increasing their overall engagement in school, probability of graduating and likelihood of enrolling in college, according to a new study of a curriculum offered at the San Francisco Unified School District (SFUSD).




A new Stanford study found that students assigned to an ethnic studies course had longer-term improvements in attendance and graduation rates. (Image credit: Getty Images)

The findings, which follow up on earlier research by two of the authors indicating short-term academic benefits of the course, appeared in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on Sept. 6.

The study provides “compelling and causally credible evidence on the power of this course to change students’ life trajectories,” said Thomas S. Dee, a professor at Stanford Graduate School of Education (GSE) and senior fellow at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research (SIEPR).

Dee co-authored the study with former GSE doctoral student Sade Bonilla, now an assistant professor at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, and Emily K. Penner, an assistant professor at the University of California at Irvine and former postdoctoral researcher at the GSE.

Lasting gains

The study was done in collaboration with SFUSD as part of a research-practice partnership with the GSE that began in 2009. In 2010, SFUSD launched a pilot program in which students were automatically assigned to an ethnic studies course as their first-year social studies requirement if they had a GPA of 2.0 or less. About nine in 10 were Hispanic, Black or Asian.

In 2017, Dee and Penner published a study showing academic gains at the end of ninth grade (e.g., higher attendance, grade-point averages and credits) among students encouraged to take the course. The researchers weren’t sure the gains would last over time, as countless promising academic interventions fade quickly.

But this one stuck. For one thing, attendance improved: Students who participated in the course came to school more often during their remaining time in high school, for a total of one additional day of school every two weeks.

By their fourth year of high school, the students had also passed six more courses than a comparison group. More than 90 percent graduated within five years, versus 75 percent of their peers. They were also 15 percent more likely to enroll in college within six years. (At the time of the study, they were not yet old enough to graduate college.)

Parallels with psychological interventions

How could one class in ninth grade have such a large effect? While there are many theoretical perspectives on the academic impact of ethnic studies, Dee underscored its parallels with recent insights from social psychology. Targeted psychological interventions that promote a sense of belonging in school, affirm personal values and forewarn about stereotypes have all shown promise in improving student engagement and motivation.

Dee noted that ethnic studies share these features and resemble “an unusually sustained and intensive social-psychological intervention.”

In SFUSD’s ethnic studies class, for example, students examine the role that their ancestors played in history, getting into the experiences of groups that have been literally pushed to the margins of textbooks. They study, in-depth, discrimination against various groups of people based on their race, social group, ethnicity or country of origin.

“The biggest thing that happens in an ethnic studies course, I believe, is that students get to approach an academic course from the perspective of their own experience,” said Bill Sanderson, assistant superintendent of high schools at SFUSD. “Everything is approached in the course from the experience of the students.”

Though the principles of the class remain set, teachers tailor the content to the ethnic and racial communities at their school in order to “to bring relevant curriculum that these students can identify with,” Sanderson said.

Critiquing history cultivated students’ analytical abilities across classes, and the focus on anti-racism catalyzed their idealism. But the work of the course goes far deeper than that, the researchers said.

“There’s long-standing evidence that many historically underserved students experience school environments as unwelcoming, or even hostile,” said Dee. Those in this pilot, particularly, hadn’t done well academically and didn’t feel like they belonged. And ninth grade can be a nerve-wracking, transitional year.

Ethnic studies gave students “the opportunity to see their community reflected in the curriculum,” said Bonilla. Learning about their ancestors’ contributions made them feel proud and made school feel relevant, contributing to a sense of belonging. Learning about oppression and stereotypes in action reminded students that not every failure is an individual’s fault. Students conducted research projects out in the community and connected school with their lives.

Beyond ethnic studies

From there, once a student starts doing well, you’re “starting a stone rolling downhill,” Dee said, catalyzing greater motivation.

“There’s a basis in the science of learning for why courses like this can change students’ learning trajectories,” Dee said. “And if the mechanisms we’re describing are really valid, then this goes well beyond ethnic studies,” encouraging schools to make their teaching culturally relevant across subjects.

Education policymakers have focused recently on “curricula as the low-hanging fruit of education reform,” or something comparatively simple to change, Dee said.

Nevertheless, the results might not be easy to replicate. The district honed the curriculum over several years with faculty at San Francisco State University, home of the nation’s first ethnic studies college program. Many of the initial set of teachers had studied in that department and learned how to manage debate on sensitive subjects, Sanderson said.

Efforts to replicate this success without similar teacher supports and careful implementation are unlikely to be successful, Dee said, and may even trigger unintended and negative consequences. “Consider the potential educational and political fallout of asking teachers to discuss unusually sensitive topics in the classroom without the proper training to do so effectively.”

This is an especially pertinent consideration now, in the middle of a new wave of political controversy about history curriculum. While states and school districts are increasingly adopting requirements and standards for K-12 ethnic studies, some state legislatures are debating bills to ban the 1619 Project or critical race theory, a scholarly academic analysis of structural racism.

SFUSD, for one, isn’t going back. Its board voted this spring to make ethnic studies a high school graduation requirement.

“Ethnic studies is an important part of every young person’s education,” SFUSD board president Gabriela Lopez said in a statement issued by the district in March, which pointed to research showing the curriculum’s impact on GPA across disciplines, high school graduation rates, college-going rates and sense of belonging.


Media Contacts

Thomas S. Dee, Stanford Graduate School of Education: tdee@stanford.edu

Carrie Spector, Stanford Graduate School of Education: cspector@stanford.edu

Monday, March 13, 2023

Texas Senate bill would ban DEI offices, statements at public colleges, universities

Students, Friends, and Colleagues:

Check out these priorities of our Lt. Governor Dan Patrick. Never mind what the evidence says about the positive impacts of DEI, Senate Bills 16 and 17 amount to an all-out attack on Diversity Equity and Inclusion (DEI) in Texas. 

As per my earlier post this morning, it's not like we are without power. However, we all need all to pay attention and be engaged.

-Angela Valenzuela 

Texas Senate bill would ban DEI offices, statements at public colleges, universities

The proposed bill allows for repeat violators to be fired. Faculty violators could have their tenure revoked.


Megan Menchaca
Austin American-Statesman | March 11, 2023


A bill filed Friday in the Texas Senate would prohibit public higher education institutions across the state from maintaining diversity, equity and inclusion offices or requiring DEI statements in admissions or hiring.

If Senate Bill 17 passed, a state board would create a list of employees that violate certain portions of the bill. That list would shared with every public university and college in Texas. Also, universities cannot hire first-time violators until the end of the academic year when the violation occurred. Repeat violators would be fired and could not be considered for rehire for five years after the dismissal.

The bill is one of Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s top legislative priorities. State Sen. Brandon Creighton, chair of the Senate Subcommittee on Higher Education, filed the bill, which would enact the restrictions in DEI in higher education in Texas if passed. Eight additional senators have signed on to the bill as authors as of Saturday morning.

The current draft of the bill prohibits public colleges and universities in Texas from having a DEI office or hiring employees or outside contractors to “perform the duties” of a DEI office. The expansive bill blocks any public office that promotes efforts “designed or implemented in reference to race, color, or ethnicity.” It also bans training or activities “designed or implemented in reference to race, color, ethnicity, gender identity, or sexual orientation” — except those required under state or federal law.

More:University of Texas System to halt new diversity, equity and inclusion policies on campuses

Creighton, R-Conroe, said “so-called” DEI offices are the “leading threat” to diversity and inclusivity on university campuses. He said people should be welcomed and promoted at universities based on their qualifications.

“The elevation of DEI offices on campuses have only furthered divides and created a chilling effect on open dialogue,” Creighton wrote in a statement. “This legislation will ensure Texas college campuses are environments that are open to differing ideas, foster meaningful, reasoned dialogue, and encourage intellectual discourse.”

The bill would prohibit universities from asking current students and employees, contractors, job applicants and students applying for admission for DEI statements or to “endorse an ideology that promotes the differential treatment of an individual or group of individuals based on race, color, or ethnicity.”

Creighton’s bill would keep universities from asking people to provide statements on their “views on or experience” with race, ethnicity or national origin and their contributions to efforts involving DEI, marginalized groups, anti-racism, social justice or intersectionality.

More:How diverse are students, employees at Austin-area colleges and universities?

It would ban universities from requiring students, employees or job applicants to participate in training on DEI, bias, oppression or gender identity unless the training is required by state or federal law.

Universities would face a fine either of $1 million or 1% of the school’s operating expenses — whichever is less — for violations if the bill becomes law. Employees would be placed on unpaid leave for their first violation and fired for their second violation. Faculty could have their tenure revoked. 

The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board — overseer of public universities in the state — would maintain a list of employees who violate the section regarding the prohibition on DEI offices and DEI statements. That list would be shared with other public universities and universities would be limited from hiring people on the list.

The proposed bill allows members of a Board of Regents, appointed by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott, to approve or deny hires for several positions, including provost, associate or assistant provost, dean or associate or assistant dean, at each institution they oversee.The Regents would have the authority to approve or deny courses in the core curriculum and postings for tenured faculty positions at the institution they oversee.

On Friday, Sen. Bryan Hughes, R-Mineola, also filed Senate Bill 16, another priority of the Lt. Gov, to prohibit faculty from compelling or attempting to compel students to “adopt a belief that any race, sex, or ethnicity or social, political, or religious belief is inherently superior to any other race, sex, ethnicity, or belief.”

Lawmakers have until May 29, when the legislative session ends, to pass any bills and send them to Gov. Greg Abbott to sign into law.

More:University of Texas 'operational plan' to execute, track 2022 DEI goals remains unreleased

Thursday, March 09, 2023

Program and Viewing Options for Saturday's BBDP Virtual Town Hall - Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10AM-4:30PM CST

Many thanks and much love to Dr. Diane Ravitch for posting notice of Saturday's Virtual Town Hall on her blog: "An Invitation to Learn About Ethnic-Racial Political Struggles in Texas." Everybody is truly welcome to join us on this special occasion. There are two viewing options—on Facebook or Youtube—as follows:

On Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@teamblackbrown


We are also asking everyone to take the pledge for Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.  This will get you onto our BBDP mailing list for further events, actions, and media advisories.


Here is the Media Advisory that we previously sent out and that I posted to this blog: MEDIA ADVISORY:  Black Brown Dialogues on Policy hosts Virtual Town Hall—Sat. March 11, 2023 from 10:00 AM—4:30PM CST  BBDP’s Town Hall takes place online, featuring several panels of experts and student voices, all of whom will discuss the benefits of DEI programs, Ethnic Studies curriculum, together with a teach-in on Critical Race Theory and its critics moderated by Dr. Kevin Kumashiro, directed by Drs. Francesca Lopez and Christine Sleeter. Panelists will comment on their importance for more diverse, inclusive & welcoming spaces for youth and faculty in both K-12 and higher education. 
Our exciting program is detailed below.       

-Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D.
@vlnzl

Virtual Town Hall on DEI and Ethnic Studies Policy in the 88th Session of the Texas State Legislature


Sponsored by Black Brown Dialogues on Policy


CONVENERS

Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D., Co-Convener, Black Brown Dialogues on Policy

Gary Bledsoe, Esq., Texas NAACP Chair

Colette Phillips, CEO, Get Konnected!


PROGRAM



10-10:15 AM—Welcome to BBDP and this Virtual Town Hall

    • Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D., Professor, Educational Leadership and Policy,          University of Texas at Austin
    • Gary Bledsoe, Esq., Chair, Texas NAACP
    • Rudy Rosales, Chair, Texas LULAC


10:15-11:15 AMPanel I: Let’s talk about Proposed Anti-DEI Policy in the State of Texas


Moderator: Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D.

  • The Honorable Senator Royce West
  • Julia Brookins, Special Projects Administrator, American Historical Association
  • Danielle Clealand, Ph.D., Associate Professor, Mexican American and Latino Studies and African American and African Diaspora Studies, University of Texas at Austin
  • Roque Aguon, Ph.D. Candidate, Sociocultural Foundations of Education, University of Texas El Paso
  • Stella Flores, Ph.D.,  Associate Professor, Educational Leadership and Policy, University of Texas at Austin

11:15-11:45—Gen Z Student Panel I: Let’s talk about what DEI means to me.


Moderator: Pablo Díaz, Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, University of Texas at Austin

  • Mohamed Ade Mohamed, Texas Christian University graduate, Youth Advocacy and Educational Studies, 
  • Janeva Wilson, Graduate Student, Education Policy and Planning, University of Texas at Austin
  • Julianna “Jules” Collado, Graduate Student, Education Policy and Planning, University of Texas at Austin
  • Jesse José Garcia, Texas Tech graduate, President of LULAC Council 22423
  • Mateo Rosiles, Texas Tech graduate, Vice-President of LULAC Council 22423 and journalist for the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal


11:45-12:00PMPanel I: Reflection on Gen Z Student Panel I


Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D., Moderator


  • Julia Brookins, Special Projects Administrator, American Historical Association
  • Danielle Clealand, Ph.D., Associate Professor, Mexican American and Latino Studies and African American and African Diaspora Studies, University of Texas at Austin
  • Roque Aguon, Ph.D. Candidate, Sociocultural Foundations of Education, University of Texas El Paso
  • Stella Flores, Ph.D., Associate Professor, Educational Leadership and Policy, University of Texas at Austin


12:00-12:30PMTeach-In on Ethnic Studies and Critical Race Theory


Moderator: Kevin Kumashiro, Ph.D., University of San Francisco


Francesca Lopez, Ph.D. and Christine Sleeter, Ph.D., co-authors

Critical Race Theory and Its Critics. NY: Teachers College Press, 2022.



12:30-12:45 PM—Remarks from Honorable Chair of the Mexican American Legislative Caucus Texas State Representative Victoria Neave Criado and the Honorable Chair of the Texas Legislative Black Caucus Texas State Representative Ron Reynolds


12:45-2:00 PMPanel II: Let’s talk about Ethnic Studies Policy in the State of Texas


Moderator: Tony Diaz, Director, El Librotraficante and Nuestra Palabra: Latino Writers Having Their Say

  • The Honorable Texas State Representative Christina Morales
  • The Honorable Aicha Davis, Texas State Board of Education Member
  • Valerie Martinez, Ph.D., Chair, K-12 Committee of the National Association for Chicana/o Studies Tejas Foco
  • Dwight Watson, Ph.D., Associate Professor Emeritus, Texas State University


2:00-2:30 PM Gen Z Student Panel II: Let’s talk about what Ethnic Studies means to me


Moderator: Julianna “Jules” Collado, Education Policy and Planning, Master’s Student

  • Xue Tang, High School Junior, Liberal Arts and Science Academy, Austin, Tx
  • Jeremiah Baldwin, Undergraduate, University of Texas at Austin
  • Aldo Frausto, Undergraduate, Communications major, University of Texas at Austin
  • Abasifreke “A.B.” Udosen, Liberal Arts and Science Academy, Austin, Tx


2:30-3:00 PMPanel II: Reflection on Gen Z Student Panel II


  • The Honorable Texas State Representative Christina Morales
  • The Honorable Aicha Davis, Texas State Board of Education Member
  • Valerie Martinez, Ph.D., Chair, K-12 Committee of the National Association for Chicana/o Studies Tejas Foco
  • Dwight Watson, Ph.D., Associate Professor Emeritus, Texas State University


3:00 PM-4:30 PM—Closing Reflection by Select Founders of the BBDP Board


Moderator/Discussant: Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D.

  • Alberta Phillips, former journalist, Austin American-Statesman
  • Emilio Zamora, Ph.D., Clyde Rabb Littlefield Chair in Texas History, University of Texas at Austin
  • Gary Bledsoe, Esq., Chair, Texas NAACP
  • Junichi Lockett, Ph.D., Post-Doctoral Fellow, Institute for Urban Policy Research & Analysis (IUPRA), University of Texas at Austin

Many thanks to our Sponsors:


Black Brown Dialogues on Policy
Texas NAACP
Texas LULAC
Mexican American Legislative Caucus
Texas Legislative Black Caucus
Texas Legislative Education Equity Coalition
Mexican American School Board Association
Texas Association for Chicanos in Higher Education
Texas Association for Diversity Officers of Higher Education
National Association for Chicana & Chicano Studies Tejas Foco Pre-K 12 Committee


Friday, March 03, 2023

MEDIA ADVISORY: Black Brown Dialogues on Policy hosts Virtual Town Hall—Sat. March 11, 2023 from 10:00 AM—4:30PM CST



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

March 3, 2023 Contact: Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D.

512-956-6722 (cell)

blackbrownpolicy@gmail.com

























**Media Advisory**


AUSTIN, TX Saturday, March, 11 2023 at 10:00 a.m., Black Brown Dialogues on Policy is proud to announce its first Virtual Town Hall in partnership with Texas LULAC, the Texas NAACP, the Texas Legislative Black Caucus and the Mexican American Legislative Caucus to discuss both the importance of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives in Texas colleges and universities, along with workforce diversity, and Ethnic Studies policy in K-12 education in Texas.

BBDP’s Virtual Town Hall takes place online at www.facebook.com/TeamBlackBrown. 

It will feature a panel of experts, as well as students who will discuss the benefits of DEI programs and how they help build more diverse, inclusive and welcoming spaces for youth and faculty in higher education. The panel will include:

    • The Honorable Texas Senator Royce West
    • Julia Brookins, Special Projects Administrator, American Historical Association

DEI programs are essential for creating a more equitable society and helping marginalized groups overcome systemic barriers. However, some lawmakers in Texas have recently proposed bills that, if passed, would restrict or eliminate these programs. BBDP’s Virtual Town Hall meeting will provide an opportunity for community members, employers, and legislators to learn more about DEI programs and voice their support for them.


"Consistent with Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, we believe that DEI programs are critical for building a more just and inclusive society,” says Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D. and BBDP co-convener about the vital need for these programs and hiring practices. “We also encourage lawmakers to support Ethnic Studies in the K-12 curriculum,” she adds.


"As things stand in Texas because of decades of discrimination, there is a need for DEI policies to help ensure that African Americans and Latinos have fair representation and opportunities in recruitment, hiring and admission to tax-funding institutions and agencies,” said Gary Bledsoe, President of the Texas NAACP and a founder of the Black Brown Dialogues on Policy. "While DEI policies aren’t a magic wand, they have helped the state make progress in diversifying its workforce and its public colleges and universities."


The virtual town hall meeting is free and open to the public. We encourage community members, university faculty, students, advocates, and lawmakers to attend.


For more information about the town hall meeting, please contact Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D. at blackbrownpolicy@gmail.com.


WHEN: Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:00a.m. CST


WHERE:

www.facebook.com/TeamBlackBrown

INTERVIEW OPPORTUNITY: Angela Valenzuela, Ph.D.

Gary Bledsoe, Esq.


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#DEI #EthnicStudiesNow #DontLetDEIdie #GenZ #BBDPNextGen

Thursday, January 26, 2023

Backlash grows against DeSantis decision to block AP African American studies class #StopTheBlackAttack

DeSantis' decision to disallow the teaching of AP African American Studies in Florida schools takes me back to when John Huppenthal did this to Mexican American Studies (formerly called "Raza Studies") in the Tucson Unified School District. 

Referencing this court case in which I served as expert witness on curriculum, Civil Rights Attorney Ben Crump is correct in noting the unconstitutionality of robbing youth of their right to this curriculum. The teacher and student plaintiffs in TUSD won this case in 2017, following a 7-year court battle. I blogged about it for at least a couple of years (note: keyword search "MAS," "TUSD," "TUSD Ethnic Studies," and "Tucson" to locate posts).

Folks in Florida are justifiably outraged, calling out DeSantis' gravitation toward these divisive, "red-meat" issues as objectionable when according to State Sen. Shevrin Jones (D) he should be "addressing issues that matter to Floridians like 'crumbling schools, dilapidated buildings in our communities” and high property insurance costs.'"
“These are the issues that‘s being ignored because we have to deal with the promotion of Jim Crow 3.0 by people who don’t know and don’t care about what’s happening in Black communities, but they desire to referee how you teach our history,” Jones said. 
This IS Jim Crow 3.0, or as we say in Texas among Mexicans for whom this is
also true, "it's Juan Crow." Check out the signage on stopping the "Black Attack" rally that took place yesterday at the state capitol in Tallahassee.

In the meantime, we continue with our own similar struggles in our own state of Texas with a Governor like DeSantis who has similar political aspirations and ideological perspectives.

If any good comes out of this, it's that we come to appreciate in deep and meaningful ways the importance and viability of Black Brown unity.

Sí se puede! Yes we can!

-Angela Valenzuela 

#EthnicStudiesNow #SaveAfricanAmericanStudies #StopTheBlackAttack

Backlash grows against DeSantis decision to block AP African American studies class

Updated January 26, 2023 at 10:13 a.m. EST|Published January 25, 2023 at 7:37 p.m. EST
Civil rights attorney Ben Crump stands with Elijah Edwards, 14, a student at Sail High School during a “Stop The Black Attack” rally in Tallahassee on Wednesday. (Octavio Jones/Reuters)

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is facing mounting backlash regarding his administration’s decision to prohibit an Advanced Placement high school course on African American studies, with Black leaders rallying in the capital, a prominent civil rights lawyer threatening to sue and state lawmakers urging him to reverse the decision.


Attorney Ben Crump accused DeSantis of violating the federal and state constitutions Wednesday by refusing to permit the course. His legal team noted that a federal judge found a 2010 law in Arizona that banned a Mexican American studies program from Tucson schools unconstitutional and officials “motivated by racial animus.”


Continue reading here.